II Samuel 16:10 · Bible study
2 Samuel 16:10 Commentary: Yahweh and Shimei's Curse
Hebrew · 9 what the commentators say
Meaning in one sentence
David accepts Shimei's curse as from Yahweh's hand. How can God command a curse? Commentary on sovereignty, providence, and humility in 2 Samuel 16:10.
Research Summary
- Meaning: David accepts Shimei’s curse as from God’s providential hand, rejecting violent retaliation.
- Key words: “Yahweh has said” (אָמַר), not a moral command but divine ordering; “curse” (קָלַל), to treat lightly, to despise.
- Main debate: Does God command sin? Most commentators say no; David refers to God’s sovereign permission, not His holy will.
- Theological theme: God’s sovereignty extends over evil without making Him its author; human malice serves His purposes.
- Best use: Pastoral comfort for those suffering unjustly; a call to trust God’s hidden governance.
Translation Comparison
BSB Berean Standard Bible 2020
But the king replied, “What have I to do with you, O sons of Zeruiah? If he curses me because the LORD told him, ‘Curse David,’ who can ask, ‘Why did you do this?’”
WEB World English Bible 2000
The king said, “What have I to do with you, you sons of Zeruiah? Because he curses, and because Yahweh has said to him, ‘Curse David,’ who then shall say, ‘Why have you done so?’”
KJV King James Version 1769
And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? so let him curse, because the Lord hath said unto him, Curse David. Who shall then say, Wherefore hast thou done so?
ASV American Standard Version 1901
And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? Because he curseth, and because Jehovah hath said unto him, Curse David; who then shall say, Wherefore hast thou done so?
YLT Young's Literal Translation 1898
And the king saith, `What--to me and to you, O sons of Zeruiah? for--let him revile; even because Jehovah hath said to him, Revile David; and who saith, Wherefore hast Thou done so?'
Darby Darby Bible 1890
And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? so let him curse, for Jehovah has said to him, Curse David! Who shall then say, Why dost thou so?
Douay-Rheims Douay-Rheims Bible 1899
And the king said: What have I to do with you, ye sons of Sarvia? Let him alone and let him curse: for the Lord hath bid him curse David: and who is he that shall dare say, why hath he done so?
Translations in other languages (10 available)
Y el rey respondió: ¿ Qué tengo yo con vosotros, hijos de Sarvia? El maldice así, porque Jehová le ha dicho que maldiga á David: ¿ quién pues le dirá: Por qué lo haces así?
E o rei respondeu: Que tenho eu convosco, filhos de Zeruia? Ele almadiçoa assim, porque o SENHOR lhe disse que almadiçoasse a Davi; quem pois lhe dirá: Por que o fazes assim?
Mais le roi dit: Qu’ ai-je affaire avec vous, fils de Tseruja? S’ il maudit, c’ est que l’ Éternel lui a dit: Maudis David! Qui donc lui dira: Pourquoi agis-tu ainsi?
Der König sprach: Ihr Kinder der Zeruja, was habe ich mit euch zu schaffen? Laßt ihn fluchen; denn der HERR hat's ihn geheißen: Fluche David! Wer kann nun sagen: Warum tust du also?
Maar de koning zeide: Wat heb ik met u te doen, gij zonen van Zeruja? Ja, laat hem vloeken; want de HEERE toch heeft tot hem gezegd: Vloek David; wie zou dan zeggen: Waarom hebt gij alzo gedaan?
Ma il re rispose: “Che ho io da far con voi, figliuoli di Tseruia? S’ei maledice, è perché l’Eterno gli ha detto: Maledici Davide! E chi oserà dire: Perché fai così?”
Ale król rzekł: Cóż wam do tego, synowie Sarwii, że złorzeczy? Ponieważ mu Pan rzekł: Złorzecz Dawidowi, i któżby śmiał rzec: Czemu tak czynisz?
И сказал царь: что мне и вам, сыны Саруины? [оставьте его,] пусть он злословит, ибо Господь повелел ему злословить Давида. Кто же может сказать: зачем ты так делаешь?
王 說:「洗魯雅 的兒子,我 與你們 有何關涉呢? 他咒罵 是因 耶和華 吩咐他 說:『你要咒罵 大衛。』如此,誰 敢說 你為甚麼 這樣 行呢?」
And the king said, What have I to do with you, you sons of Zeruiah? Let him go on cursing, for the Lord has said, Put a curse on David, and who then may say, Why have you done so?
Verse in Context
Original Language (Biblical Hebrew)
Old Testament · Biblical Hebrew · II Samuel 16:10
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Scholars' Consensus
Commentators across traditions agree that David does not mean God morally commanded Shimei to sin. Gill explains that the phrase “Yahweh has said to him, Curse David” refers not to a divine precept but to God's providential ordering, God “ordered it so in Providence” that Shimei should curse, using Shimei's own malice to discipline David. Wesley similarly distinguishes: “God did not put any wickedness into Shimei's heart… but only left him to his own wickedness; and brought David into so distressed a condition.” The Cambridge Bible notes that the Hebrew textual tradition (Keri vs. Chethib) affects the translation of “let him curse,” but the underlying conviction remains: David sees God's hand behind the event. Keil and Delitzsch add that the formula “What have I to do with you” repudiates the violent response of the sons of Zeruiah, and David's submission to God's will is the point. All agree: David is not excusing Shimei's sin but humbly accepting God's sovereign purposes.
How settled is the interpretation?
Interpretive difficulty: Medium
Main views:
- Literal attribution view: Some readers take 'Yahweh has said to him, Curse David' at face value, seeing it as a sign that God commands sinful actions for His purposes.
- Providential permission view: Gill, Wesley, and most commentators: David speaks of God’s providential ordering, not His moral command. God 'said' by permitting and directing circumstances, just as He 'said' to the ravens (1 Kings 17:4).
What is clear: David humbly accepts the curse as part of God’s sovereign plan, and he refuses to retaliate, trusting that God will eventually bring good from the evil.
What Scholars Agree and Debate
| Topic | Agreed | Debated |
|---|---|---|
| God’s role in Shimei’s curse | God did not morally command Shimei to sin; He used Shimei’s own malice to discipline David. | Some traditions emphasize God’s active decree (Calvinist), while others stress His mere permission (Arminian). All agree God is not the author of sin. |
| David’s attitude toward enemies | David models humility and trust rather than vengeance. | Catholics and Orthodox may see this as an example of non-resistance; some Protestant traditions focus on the principle of God’s sovereignty in suffering. |
| Role of the sons of Zeruiah | They offer a violent solution that David rejects as contrary to God’s will. | Interpreters differ on whether David had a right to execute Shimei later (cf. 1 Kings 2:8-9), showing that submission does not preclude eventual justice. |
Historical & Cultural Context
David is fleeing Jerusalem. His son Absalom has declared himself king, and David leaves the city in humiliation, walking barefoot up the Mount of Olives (2 Samuel 15:30). At Bahurim, a village of the tribe of Benjamin, a man named Shimei appears. Shimei is a relative of Saul's house (2 Samuel 16:5). He hurls stones and dust at David and the royal entourage, cursing David as a “man of blood” and claiming that God is now punishing him for taking Saul's throne.
Abishai, son of Zeruiah, is David's nephew and a general. The “sons of Zeruiah” (Abishai and Joab) are known for their quick violence, David once complained they were “too hard for me” (2 Samuel 3:39). Abishai wants to kill Shimei on the spot. But David rebukes him sharply: “What have I to do with you?” The phrase is a strong dismissal, meaning “we have nothing in common here” (Cambridge Bible).
David's response is shaped by two realities. First, he is in a season of repentance; Nathan's prophecy after the Bathsheba affair had warned that trouble would rise from within his own house (2 Samuel 12:10-11). Second, the ancient Near East saw a king's honor as almost sacred, yet David accepts dishonor if it comes from God. He later adds that perhaps Yahweh will look on his affliction and repay good (2 Samuel 16:12). The whole scene is a portrait of a king stripped of power, choosing trust over vengeance.
Textual Notes
The Masoretic text (Chethib) reads “when he curses” (יְקַלֵּל), while the Keri (read tradition) suggests “let him curse” (יְקַלֵּל). The difference is a single vowel pointing. The Keri is likely an attempt to smooth the syntax, as the standard translations show. Keil and Delitzsch argue that the Chethib is original: “If he curses, and if Jehovah hath said to him, Curse David, who shall then say, Wherefore hast thou done so?” The consultative sources note no other significant variants.
Reception History
Throughout church history, this verse has been read as a striking example of humble submission to divine providence. The early church fathers, such as Chrysostom, referenced David’s patience as a model for enduring persecution. Medieval commentators like the Glossa Ordinaria saw Shimei as a type of the wicked who unknowingly serve God’s purposes. During the Reformation, both Luther and Calvin used the verse to illustrate God’s sovereign governance over all events, including evil, while carefully distinguishing between God’s will of command and His will of permission. In modern evangelical and Catholic circles, the passage remains a touchstone for discussions on theodicy and the proper Christian response to insult. Recent scholarship (e.g., the New International Commentary) continues to wrestle with how David’s words cohere with the rest of Scripture’s teaching on God’s holiness.
Preaching This Verse
Three-point outline
- The temptation of the sons of Zeruiah: Abishai offers a quick, violent “solution.” David refuses to let human vengeance set the agenda.
- Yahweh has said to him, Curse David: David speaks of God’s providential permission, not His moral command. The curse is real evil, but God is sovereign over it.
- Who shall then say, Why have you done so? David silences the impulse to protest God’s ways. He trusts that God’s purposes, though hidden, are just.
Five-point outline
- Context: David fleeing, Shimei cursing.
- The sons of Zeruiah: protectors who become tempters.
- David’s theology of providence: “Yahweh has said”, not a command to sin, but a sovereign ordering of circumstances.
- Practical humility: accepting insult as discipline.
- Looking ahead: hope that God will repay good (v.12).
Illustration hooks
- When someone criticises you unfairly, your first instinct is to defend yourself or strike back. David models a different path: quiet trust.
- Imagine a parent whose teenager says something hurtful. The parent might see it as God exposing their own need for growth, not just as rebellion.
- In a workplace, a colleague spreads rumors about you. You can either retaliate or ask: “What might God be teaching me through this?”
Questions your congregation is asking
- Does this verse mean God sometimes wants people to sin against me? How do I know the difference between God’s discipline and random cruelty?
- When someone hurts me, how do I decide whether to confront or to endure in silence?
- What does it look like to trust God’s sovereignty without becoming passive or fatalistic?
Leading a Discussion
This passage challenges us to see God’s hand even in painful human actions. Shimei’s curse is unjust, but David receives it as from the Lord. The sons of Zeruiah want him to fight back; he chooses submission. Small groups can use the questions below to explore how trust in God’s sovereignty reshapes our responses to injury.
Discussion questions
- Read 2 Samuel 16:5-10 aloud. What does Shimei accuse David of? Is his accusation fair?
- Why does David refuse Abishai’s offer to kill Shimei? What does David’s reply reveal about his view of power?
- David says “Yahweh has said to him, Curse David.” In what sense can God “say” something that is sinful? How do the commentators (Gill, Wesley) clarify this?
- How does David’s experience with his own sin (the Bathsheba affair) shape his response here? (See 2 Samuel 12:10-11.)
- When have you faced unjust criticism or attack? What feelings arise when you hear God might be involved in that?
- What difference would it make to see a difficult situation as something God has “said” (permitted) rather than as random evil?
- How can a small group support someone who is enduring a season of humbling, without rushing to “fix” the problem?
Word Study
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Cross-References
Source: Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (TSK, public domain)
| Genesis 50:20 | As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to save many people alive, as is happening today. |
| II Samuel 3:39 | I am weak today, though anointed king. These men, the sons of Zeruiah are too hard for me. May Yahweh reward the evildoer according to his wickedness.” |
| II Samuel 19:22 | David said, “What have I to do with you, you sons of Zeruiah, that you should be adversaries to me today? Shall any man be put to death today in Israel? For don’t I know that I am king over Israel today?” |
| I Kings 2:5 | “Moreover you know also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, even what he did to the two captains of the armies of Israel, to Abner the son of Ner and to Amasa the son of Jether, whom he killed, and shed the blood of war in peace, and put the blood of war on his sash that was around his waist and in his sandals that were on his feet. |
| I Kings 22:21 | A spirit came out and stood before Yahweh, and said, ‘I will entice him.’ |
| I Kings 22:23 | Now therefore, behold, Yahweh has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and Yahweh has spoken evil concerning you.” |
| II Kings 18:25 | Have I now come up without Yahweh against this place to destroy it? Yahweh said to me, ‘Go up against this land, and destroy it.’”’” |
| Job 9:12 | Behold, he snatches away. Who can hinder him? Who will ask him, ‘What are you doing?’ |
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What the Commentators Say
8 public-domain commentaries, condensed into plain language.
Adam Clarke's Commentary Methodist/Wesleyan 1826
Clarke focuses on a translation detail: the Hebrew particle vechi should be read as for if rather than because. His point is that the verse presents a conditional situation: if the Lord told Shimei to curse David, then no one has the right to ask why he did it.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible Protestant 1832
Barnes draws attention to the phrase “What have I to do...” as it appears in other biblical passages, especially David’s complaint about the sons of Zeruiah and a striking incident in the life of Jesus. He suggests these parallel moments share a similar tone of protest or reluctance.
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges Anglican 1880
The commentator explains that the phrase "What have I to do with you?" was used to dismiss an unwelcome suggestion and reject sharing another's attitude. They note that Joab likely backed Abishai's request, and point to a textual variation in the next clause: the traditional reading differs from the written text's possible meaning about the Lord's involvement.
Geneva Bible Notes Reformed 1599
David sees Shimei's cursing not as random malice but as something the Lord may have commanded. He silences his men by this logic: if God ordered it, who are they to question it? The point is humble acceptance of even harsh treatment under God's sovereign hand.
Gill's Exposition of the Bible Baptist 1748
Gill distinguishes between Shimei's sinful cursing and God's providence. David recognized that while Shimei acted from hatred, God had ordered this as a chastisement. Therefore David refused to stop him, accepting the event as God's appointed correction and quietly submitting to it.
Keil & Delitzsch OT Commentary Protestant 1876
Keil and Delitzsch point out that David’s reply “What have I to do with you?” means he refuses to share Abishai’s vengeful spirit. David instead considers that the Lord himself may have told Shimei to curse, leaving no room for human objection. He accepts the insult as possibly from God.
Matthew Henry's Commentary Reformed/Presbyterian 1710
Henry notes that David handled Shimei's curses better than he handled Ziba's flatteries. The curses forced David to pass a right judgment on himself, whereas the flatteries had led him into a wrong judgment on another. The world's frowns, he concludes, are less dangerous than its smiles.
Wesley's Explanatory Notes Methodist/Wesleyan 1754
Wesley distinguishes God's permissive will from active command: God did not put wickedness into Shimei's heart but left him to his own malice while bringing David low. The phrase "the Lord said" refers to God's providence, not a direct command, just as God is said to command ravens.