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Proverbs 27:22 · Bible study

Proverbs 27:22 Commentary: The Fool's Incurable Folly

Hebrew · 9 what the commentators say

Meaning in one sentence

Proverbs 27:22 uses vivid imagery of grinding a fool in a mortar, illustrating the stubborn nature of folly.

Research Summary

  • Meaning: The verse illustrates the deep-rooted stubbornness of a fool that cannot be removed by the harshest human discipline.
  • Key words: bray/pound (כתש, kathash), mortar (מכתש, makhtesh), foolishness (אוולת, ivvelet).
  • Main debate: Whether the fool is utterly incurable or whether the proverb describes the limits of human correction while leaving room for God's transformative work.
  • Theological theme: The limits of human discipline and the necessity of divine grace for genuine heart change.
  • Best use: As a stark reminder of the depth of human sinfulness and a call to depend on God rather than our own efforts to change others.

Translation Comparison

BSB Berean Standard Bible 2020

Though you grind a fool like grain with mortar and a pestle, yet his folly will not depart from him.

WEB World English Bible 2000

Though you grind a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with grain, yet his foolishness will not be removed from him.

KJV King James Version 1769

Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

ASV American Standard Version 1901

Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with bruised grain, Yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

YLT Young's Literal Translation 1898

If thou dost beat the foolish in a mortar, Among washed things--with a pestle, His folly turneth not aside from off him.

Darby Darby Bible 1890

If thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his folly depart from him.

Douay-Rheims Douay-Rheims Bible 1899

Though thou shouldst bray a fool in the mortar, as when a pestle striketh upon sodden barley, his folly would not be taken from him.

Translations in other languages (10 available)
ES Reina-Valera 1909 1909

Aunque majes al necio en un mortero entre granos de trigo á pisón majados, no se quitará de él su necedad.

PT Almeida Livre 1994

Ainda que esmagues ao tolo em um pilão junto com os grãos, ainda assim sua loucura não se separaria dele.

FR Louis Segond 1910

Quand tu pilerais l’insensé dans un mortier,

DE Luther Bibel 1912 1912

Wenn du den Narren im Mörser zerstießest mit dem Stämpel wie Grütze, so ließe doch seine Narrheit nicht von ihm.

NL Statenvertaling 1637

Al stiet gij den dwaas in een mortier met een stamper, in het midden van het gestoten graan, zijn dwaasheid zou van hem niet afwijken.

IT Riveduta 1927

Anche se tu pestassi lo stolto in un mortaio in mezzo al grano col pestello, la sua follia non lo lascerebbe.

PL Biblia Gdańska 1632

Choćbyś głupiego i w stępie między krupami stąporem stłukł, nie odejdzie od niego głupstwo jego.

RU Синодальный перевод 1876

Толки глупого в ступе пестом вместе с зерном, не отделится от него глупость его.

ZH 和合本 1919

你雖 用杵 將 愚妄人 與打碎的麥子 一同搗 在臼 中,他的愚妄 還是離 不了 他。

EN Bible in Basic English 1949

Even if a foolish man is crushed with a hammer in a vessel among crushed grain, still his foolish ways will not go from him.

Verse in Context

20 Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied; and a man’s eyes are never satisfied.
21 The crucible is for silver, and the furnace for gold; but man is refined by his praise.
22 Though you grind a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with grain, yet his foolishness will not be removed from him.
23 Know well the state of your flocks, and pay attention to your herds,
24 for riches are not forever, nor does the crown endure to all generations.

Original Language (Biblical Hebrew)

אִ֥ם 'im HTc H0518 if
תִּכְתּֽוֹשׁ\־ tikh.to.osh- HVqi2ms H3806 you will pound
אֶת\־ 'et- HTo H0853 <obj.>
הָ/אֱוִ֨יל\׀ ha./'e.Vil HTd/Aamsa H0191 the/ fool
בַּֽ/מַּכְתֵּ֡שׁ ba./makh.Tesh HRd/Ncmsa H4388 in <the>/ mortar
בְּ/ת֣וֹךְ be./Tokh HR/Ncmsc H8432 in/ among
הָ֭/רִיפוֹת Ha./ri.fot HTd/Ncfpa H7383 the/ grain<s>
בַּֽ/עֱלִ֑י ba./'e.Li HRd/Ncmsa H5940 with the/ pestle
לֹא\־ lo'- HTn H3808 not
תָס֥וּר ta.Sur HVqi3fs H5493 it will depart
מֵ֝/עָלָ֗י/ו me./'a.La/v HR/Rd/Sp3ms H5921 from/ with <the>/ him
אִוַּלְתּֽ/וֹ\׃\ \פ 'i.val.T/o HNcfsc/Sp3ms H0200 foolishness/ his

Source: STEPBible TAGNT/TEHB (CC-BY 4.0). Click or tap a morphology code to see the full parsing.

Scholars' Consensus

Commentators across traditions agree that this verse uses extreme physical force as a metaphor for the most severe correction, only to conclude that the fool's folly remains. Barnes notes that the pestle process is more elaborate than threshing, yet the folly sticks. Gill observes that just as manna or wheat retains its nature when bruised, so the wicked man's depravity persists. Matthew Henry contrasts the verse with Proverbs 22:15, where a child's folly can be driven out; here, if not corrected early, it becomes nearly incurable. Clarke suggests the metaphor comes from pounding metallic ores, the metal can be freed of dross, but the fool cannot be purged of folly. Keil and Delitzsch state that folly has become second nature. Jamieson-Fausset-Brown describe the condition as incurable by the heaviest inflictions. The consensus is that human discipline, no matter how harsh, cannot remove ingrained foolishness. Several commentators imply that only divine intervention might reach such a heart.

How settled is the interpretation?

Interpretive difficulty: Medium

Main views:

  1. Absolute incurability: Gill, Barnes, and Jamieson-Fausset-Brown emphasize that even the most severe discipline cannot remove folly; the fool remains stubborn to the end.
  2. Human inability, divine possibility: Matthew Henry and others note that while human efforts fail, the verse may leave room for God to intervene; they cite examples like Manasseh who, despite great wickedness, repented.

What is clear: The verse uses forceful hyperbole to stress that foolishness, when deeply embedded, resists all human attempts at correction.

What Scholars Agree and Debate

TopicAgreedDebated
Nature of the fool's incurabilityAll commentators agree that the verse describes the extreme difficulty, even impossibility, of removing folly by human means.Some see it as absolute incurability (Gill, Barnes), while others hold that it is 'next to impossible' but not beyond God (Matthew Henry, Keil & Delitzsch).
Purpose of the grinding imageThe image of grinding in a mortar represents the most severe forms of correction, physical punishment, harsh reproof, or intense suffering.Adam Clarke sees a metallurgical metaphor (refining ore), while Keil & Delitzsch emphasize agricultural processing (bruising grain). Both agree on the extreme force involved.
Relationship to Proverbs 22:15Both verses deal with the removal of folly, and both recognize the role of discipline.Some see a contradiction: 22:15 says discipline can drive out folly, while 27:22 says it cannot. Matthew Henry harmonizes by noting that 22:15 applies to children whose habits are not yet fixed, while 27:22 addresses an adult whose character is set.
Application to pastoral practiceThe verse warns against assuming that harsh measures will always reform the stubborn.Some use it to justify giving up on certain people; others see it as a call to rely on prayer and the Spirit rather than human pressure.

Historical & Cultural Context

The mortar and pestle were common household tools in ancient Israel, used to crush grain or spices (Numbers 11:8 describes grinding manna in mortars). The Hebrew term makhtesh is a hollow stone vessel, and eli is a pounder or club. The word for grain, riphoth, likely refers to bruised or gritted kernels, as Keil and Delitzsch note. The process of braying in a mortar was more aggressive than ordinary threshing, intended to separate husks or refine ore, as Adam Clarke suggested.

Culturally, this proverb sits in a collection (Proverbs 27) that warns against self-praise, jealousy, and deceit, while commending faithful friendship and diligent labor. The specific verse stands as a climax: even the most vigorous human effort cannot transform a person whose heart is set in folly. Following immediately, verses 23, 27 turn to pastoral advice about caring for flocks and fields, contrasting the wasted expenditure of energy on a fool with the productive investment in land and animals. The ancient reader would recognize the image of a mortar as a place of intense, repetitive action, exactly the kind of force that fails against spiritual stubbornness.

Textual Notes

The supplied sources note no significant manuscript variants for the Hebrew text of Proverbs 27:22. The primary textual issue involves the Greek Septuagint, which translates the Hebrew riphoth (bruised grain) as synedriou (council), rendering the line "in the midst of a council." This reading influenced the Syriac and Targum. Keil and Delitzsch affirm that the Hebrew riphoth means bruised grains, following Aquila and Theodotion. The modern critical editions follow the Masoretic Text.

Reception History

This proverb has been read across church history as a sobering warning about entrenched sin. Matthew Henry (1710) used it to contrast the corrigibility of children with the obstinacy of hardened adults. The Reformation tradition found in it support for the doctrine of total depravity, human nature so corrupted that external discipline cannot fix it. Some early monastic writers cited the verse to counsel patience and discernment when dealing with unrepentant members. The verse has also been employed in discussions of the limits of pastoral care, reminding ministers that their efforts alone cannot transform a heart; only God can. Its starkness has encouraged prayer as the primary resource for those who seem beyond reach.

Preaching This Verse

Three-point outline

  1. The fool's deep-rooted nature. The verse describes foolishness not as a surface habit but as something bound to the person's core. Discipline alone cannot extract it.
  2. The limits of human discipline. No amount of pounding, punishment, or persuasion can remove what is ingrained. This acknowledges our powerlessness to change another person's heart.
  3. The need for God's work. If human effort fails, transformation must come from a higher source. This points toward repentance and grace as the only genuine remedy.

Five-point outline

  1. Text and image: A vivid picture, a fool ground in a mortar with a pestle, to show the intensity of attempted correction.
  2. The uselessness of force: Despite extreme measures, folly remains. Commentators note the parallel with Proverbs 23:35 and Isaiah 1:5: beating only hardens the resistant.
  3. Contrast with childhood: Matthew Henry points out that Proverbs 22:15 allows the rod to drive out folly in a child; but if left uncorrected, it becomes nearly impossible.
  4. Pastoral realism: The verse frees caregivers from guilt when their best efforts fail. Some people will not change no matter what we do.
  5. Hope beyond human means: God's intervention, through prayer, the Spirit, or crisis, can reach where discipline cannot. The text doesn't close the door on divine mercy.

Illustration hooks

  • A stubborn stain on a favorite shirt. You scrub and scrub, but it won't come out. No amount of effort removes what has soaked into the fabric.
  • Boiling water to separate salt that has fully dissolved. The salt remains no matter how high the heat, it's part of the mixture.
  • Someone who has been warned repeatedly about a destructive habit but returns to it every time. Friends and family have tried everything, yet the pattern holds.

Questions your congregation is asking

  • "Is there anyone who is truly beyond hope? Does this verse mean some people can never be saved?"
  • "How do I know when I should keep trying to correct someone and when I should stop?"
  • "If God can change anyone, why does this proverb say the fool's folly won't depart?"

Leading a Discussion

This proverb confronts us with a hard truth: some forms of foolishness resist every human effort to remove them. It challenges our assumptions about the power of discipline, criticism, and even punishment to change a person. The small group can explore what this says about human nature, the limits of our influence, and where we place our hope for transformation.

Discussion questions

  1. What does the image of grinding a fool in a mortar with a pestle suggest about the intensity of the correction being described?
  2. Why does the verse say the fool's foolishness will not depart, even after such severe treatment? What does this reveal about the nature of folly?
  3. Compare this with Proverbs 22:15, where the rod of correction drives folly from a child. What accounts for the difference?
  4. Matthew Henry said that if a child's folly is not corrected early, it becomes "next to impossible" to remove later. Do you agree? Why or why not?
  5. How does this proverb affect the way you think about people in your life who seem unteachable or resistant to change?
  6. The cross-reference in 2 Chronicles 28:22 describes King Ahaz who "trespassed yet more" in his distress. Have you ever seen hardship make someone worse instead of better? Why does that happen?
  7. If human discipline has limits, where does real change come from? How do you hold together both the seriousness of sin and the possibility of transformation?

What the Commentators Say

9 public-domain commentaries, condensed into plain language.

Adam Clarke's Commentary Methodist/Wesleyan 1826

Clarke notes that this verse uses a metal refining image to show a person’s foolishness is fixed like impurities in metal. It cannot be removed no matter how hard one tries to teach them.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible Protestant 1832

Barnes highlights the stark contrast between the thorough process of pounding wheat to remove its husks and the complete inability to remove folly from a fool. No amount of discipline, teaching, or experience can rid him of it; it clings to him permanently.

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges Anglican 1880

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges notes that the word for wheat here means bruised corn not healthy grain. It also points out that this passage is part of a group of verses praising farming and pastoral work.

Geneva Bible Notes Reformed 1599

The Geneva note's point is the total stubbornness of folly: even if you ground a fool in a mortar with a pestle like grain, his foolishness would still cling to him. No amount of harsh punishment can extract it.

Gill's Exposition of the Bible Baptist 1748

Gill uses the image of beating wheat in a mortar to argue that a fool's character cannot be changed by any external force. Just as crushed wheat retains its nature, so harsh words, reproofs, or even physical punishment cannot remove a wicked person's inborn folly and sinful habits.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary Protestant 1871

The obstinate wickedness of such is incurable by the heaviest inflictions.

Keil & Delitzsch OT Commentary Protestant 1876

Keil-Delitzsch highlight the proverb's stark claim: folly clings so tightly to a fool that even the most violent discipline cannot drive it out. The Hebrew imagery of pounding grain in a mortar with a pestle shows a complete, forceful process, yet the fool's nature remains unchanged. Folly is not the fool's substance but an inalienable accident.

Lange's Commentary Reformed 1857

Lange stresses the extreme severity of the image: beating a fool in a mortar with a pestle represents the most violent punishment, yet even that cannot drive out his folly. The point is that foolishness is so deeply rooted that no external force can remove it.

Matthew Henry's Commentary Reformed/Presbyterian 1710

Henry contrasts this proverb with an earlier one about a child whose foolishness can be driven out. Here the fool is past that point: even the harshest punishment, like pounding grain in a mortar, cannot remove his ingrained folly. Such a person is incorrigible.

Word Study

The key original-language words in this verse. Select any word for its full lexicon entry — meaning, every occurrence in Scripture, and related words.

Cross-References

Source: Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (TSK, public domain)

Exodus 12:30 Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where there was not one dead.
Exodus 14:5 The king of Egypt was told that the people had fled; and the heart of Pharaoh and of his servants was changed toward the people, and they said, “What is this we have done, that we have let Israel go from serving us?”
Exodus 15:9 The enemy said, ‘I will pursue. I will overtake. I will divide the plunder. My desire will be satisfied on them. I will draw my sword. My hand will destroy them.’
II Chronicles 28:22 In the time of his distress, he trespassed yet more against Yahweh, this same King Ahaz.
II Chronicles 28:23 For he sacrificed to the gods of Damascus which had defeated him. He said, “Because the gods of the kings of Syria helped them, I will sacrifice to them, that they may help me.” But they were the ruin of him and of all Israel.
Proverbs 23:35 “They hit me, and I was not hurt! They beat me, and I don’t feel it! When will I wake up? I can do it again. I will look for more.”
Isaiah 1:5 Why should you be beaten more, that you revolt more and more? The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
Jeremiah 5:3 O Yahweh, don’t your eyes look on truth? You have stricken them, but they were not grieved. You have consumed them, but they have refused to receive correction. They have made their faces harder than a rock. They have refused to return.

Interlinear and lexical data from STEPBible (CC BY 4.0). Cross-reference data from OpenBible.info (CC BY 4.0). Commentaries are public domain.

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