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I Samuel 17:30-31 · Bible study

1 Samuel 17:30-31 Commentary: Textual Variants & David's Boldness

Hebrew · 6 what the commentators say

Meaning in one sentence

Study 1 Samuel 17:30-31: David's persistent question reaches Saul.

Research Summary

  • Meaning: David’s persistent question about Goliath’s defeat reaches Saul’s ears, bringing him to the king’s presence.
  • Key words: וַיִּסֹּב (he turned away), וַיִּשָּֽׁמְעוּ (they were heard), וַיַּגִּדוּ (they reported), וַיִּקָּחֵהוּ (he took him).
  • Main debate: Whether 1 Samuel 17:12, 31 is original or a later addition, as it is absent in some Septuagint manuscripts.
  • Theological theme: God uses persistent faith and public testimony to bring His chosen servant into position for deliverance.
  • Best use: Teaching on the providence behind human initiative, or addressing Bible reliability questions related to textual variants.

Translation Comparison

BSB Berean Standard Bible 2020

30Then he turned from him toward another and asked about the offer, and those people answered him just as the first ones had answered.

31Now David’s words were overheard and reported to Saul, who called for him.

WEB World English Bible 2000

30He turned away from him toward another, and spoke like that again; and the people answered him again the same way.

31When the words were heard which David spoke, they rehearsed them before Saul; and he sent for him.

KJV King James Version 1769

30And he turned from him toward another, and spake after the same manner: and the people answered him again after the former manner.

31And when the words were heard which David spake, they rehearsed them before Saul: and he sent for him.

ASV American Standard Version 1901

30And he turned away from him toward another, and spake after the same manner: and the people answered him again after the former manner.

31And when the words were heard which David spake, they rehearsed them before Saul; and he sent for him.

YLT Young's Literal Translation 1898

30And he turneth round from him unto another, and saith according to this word, and the people return him word as the first word.

31And the words which David hath spoken are heard, and they declare before Saul, and he receiveth him;

Darby Darby Bible 1890

30And he turned from him to another, and spoke after the same manner; and the people answered him again after the former manner.

31And the words were heard which David spoke, and they rehearsed them before Saul; and he sent for him.

Douay-Rheims Douay-Rheims Bible 1899

30And he turned a little aside from him to another: and said the same word. And the people answered him as before.

31And the words which David spoke were heard, and were rehearsed before Saul.

Verse in Context

28 Eliab his oldest brother heard when he spoke to the men; and Eliab’s anger burned against David, and he said, “Why have you come down? With whom have you left those few sheep in the wilderness? I know your pride and the evil of your heart; for you have come down that you might see the battle.”
29 David said, “What have I now done? Is there not a cause?”
30 He turned away from him toward another, and spoke like that again; and the people answered him again the same way.
31 When the words were heard which David spoke, they rehearsed them before Saul; and he sent for him.
32 David said to Saul, “Let no man’s heart fail because of him. Your servant will go and fight with this Philistine.”
33 Saul said to David, “You are not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him; for you are but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.”

Original Language (Biblical Hebrew)

וַ/יִּסֹּ֤ב va/i.yi.So Hc/Vqw3ms H5437 and/ he turned away
מֵֽ/אֶצְל/וֹ֙ me./'etz.L/o HR/Ncbsc/Sp3ms H0681 from/ beside/ him
אֶל\־ 'el- HR H0413 to
מ֣וּל mul HNcmsc H4136 [the] front of
אַחֵ֔ר 'a.Cher HAamsa H0312 another [person]
וַ/יֹּ֖אמֶר va/i.Yo.mer Hc/Vqw3ms H0559 and/ he said
כַּ/דָּבָ֣ר ka./da.Var HRd/Ncmsa H1697 according to the/ manner
הַ/זֶּ֑ה ha./Zeh HTd/Tm H2088 <the>/ this
וַ/יְשִׁבֻ֤/הוּ va/y.shi.Vu./hu Hc/Vhw3mp/Sp3ms H7725 and/ they brought back/ him
הָ/עָם֙ ha./'Am HTd/Ncmsa H5971 the/ people
דָּבָ֔ר da.Var HNcmsa H1697 word
כַּ/דָּבָ֖ר ka./da.Var HRd/Ncmsa H1697 according to the/ word
הָ/רִאשֽׁוֹן\׃ ha./ri.Shon HTd/Aomsa H7223 the/ former

Source: STEPBible TAGNT/TEHB (CC-BY 4.0). Click or tap a morphology code to see the full parsing.

Scholars' Consensus

The commentators agree that David’s repeated questioning serves a strategic purpose. Gill notes that he spoke “to one and to another” so that his words would spread and reach Saul, to whom he did not presume to apply directly. Wesley adds that David was “secretly moved by God’s spirit to undertake the combat,” indicating a divine prompting behind his persistence. The straightforward narrative, David turning from Eliab to another soldier, receiving the same answer, then being summoned by Saul, carries no internal contradiction. The textual question, however, is that verses 12, 31 of this chapter are absent in the Vatican manuscript of the Septuagint. The Cambridge Bible notes this omission and points to a debate about the passage’s genuineness. Despite this, the Masoretic Text includes these verses, and most commentators accept them as part of the original account. The event itself is understood as the providential step leading David directly to Saul’s presence.

How settled is the interpretation?

Interpretive difficulty: Medium

Main views:

  1. Original to the narrative (traditional view): Masoretic Text includes these verses; the story flows naturally with them.
  2. Later interpolation theory: Absence in some LXX manuscripts; Gill notes that v.11 connects smoothly to v.32 without these verses.

What is clear: David’s persistent questioning leads to his audience with Saul, regardless of the text-critical question.

What Scholars Agree and Debate

TopicAgreedDebated
David's motivation for repeating the questionHe intentionally spoke to multiple people so news would reach Saul.Some (e.g., Wesley) see divine prompting; others (e.g., Gill) emphasize David's modesty in not approaching Saul directly.
The historicity of the passage (vv.12, 31)The Masoretic Text includes these verses; they are part of the received narrative.Some scholars view them as a later addition or duplicate narrative (based on LXX omission), while others defend their originality.
The meaning of "rehearsed them before Saul"The words were reported to Saul.Whether this was a formal judicial report or informal gossip, the Hebrew can imply either.
David's character revealedHe shows courage and concern for God's honor.Whether his persistence is a sign of faith or youthful impetuosity.

Historical & Cultural Context

The scene takes place in the Israelite camp at the Valley of Elah, where the Philistine champion Goliath has taunted Saul’s army for forty days. David, sent by his father Jesse with provisions for his brothers, arrives just as the armies deploy for battle. The chapter’s earlier portion (vv.1, 11) sets the stage: Goliath’s challenge, Israel’s terror, and Saul’s promise of reward to anyone who defeats the giant. When David hears the challenge, he asks what will be done for the man who “takes away the reproach from Israel” (v.26). His older brother Eliab reacts sharply, accusing David of pride and abandoning the sheep (v.28). David’s reply, “What have I now done? Is there not a cause?” (v.29), shows his conviction that the matter concerns God’s honor.

In verses 30, 31, David turns from Eliab to address another soldier. The Hebrew verb וַיִּסֹּב (vayyissov) indicates a deliberate turning away, moving “toward another” (אֶל־מוּל אַחֵר, el-mul acher). He asks the same question and receives the same answer. The repeated questioning is not idle curiosity; Gill observes that David “in modesty did not choose to apply himself” directly to the king. Instead, he creates a public discussion that naturally reaches Saul’s ears. The report comes “before Saul” (לִפְנֵי שָׁאוּל), and the king sends for him. This sets up David’s bold declaration in the next verse: “Your servant will go and fight with this Philistine” (v.32).

The textual complexity, the absence of vv.12, 31 in some LXX manuscripts, reminds us that the biblical text has a transmission history. Yet the narrative itself remains coherent within the Masoretic tradition, and the cultural practices of reporting and royal audiences fit the ancient Near Eastern setting. The passage functions as a hinge: David moves from a shepherd boy among the troops to a direct audience with the king, all because of a question fired by faith.

Textual Notes

The main textual issue in this passage concerns the absence of 1 Samuel 17:12, 31 in the Vatican manuscript of the Septuagint (LXX). As the Cambridge Bible notes, “This section is not found in the Vatican MS. of the Sept.” Gill adds that all of 1 Samuel 17:12, 31 is missing in that version, and some scholars have thought these twenty verses to be an interpolation. The text-critical question is whether they were original to the Hebrew or added later. The Masoretic Text includes them, and the narrative reads coherently with them present. The omission in the LXX may reflect a shorter Hebrew Vorlage or a scribal attempt to harmonize the story. For modern readers, the variant does not affect the theological message, but it invites careful attention to the manuscript tradition.

Reception History

Within the Jewish and Christian traditions, this episode has been read as a demonstration of David’s faithful persistence and as evidence of God’s providential guidance. Medieval commentators often highlighted David’s humility in not approaching the king directly. During the Reformation, Protestant interpreters like Matthew Henry and John Wesley saw here a model of Spirit-led boldness: Henry emphasizes the wording “the armies of the living God” as David’s driving concern. In more recent centuries, the textual question surrounding vv.12, 31 has drawn attention, with conservative scholars defending the passage’s authenticity while others note its absence in certain LXX witnesses. Despite the textual debate, the verses have been treasured in the church as showing how God uses the persistent testimony of a faithful heart to open doors.

Preaching This Verse

Three-point outline

  1. A Persistent Inquiry. David turns from his brother Eliab’s rebuke and asks another soldier the same question about the reward for defeating Goliath. His repeated asking (וַיִּסֹּב, he turned away) shows he will not be silenced by opposition. The cause (“the reproach from Israel” and “the armies of the living God”) drives him.
  2. A Public Report. David’s words spread among the soldiers. The Hebrew verbs emphasize hearing and telling: “they were heard” (וַיִּשָּֽׁמְעוּ) and “they rehearsed” (וַיַּגִּדוּ). What begins as a private conversation reaches the highest authority, Saul himself.
  3. A Divine Summons. Saul sends for David. The verb וַיִּקָּחֵהוּ (he took him) indicates that David is brought into the king’s presence. This is the first step toward the confrontation with Goliath, the very outcome David’s questions anticipated.

Five-point outline

  1. Opposition Overcome: David leaves Eliab’s angry accusation (v.28) without retaliation, turning instead toward others who might listen.
  2. Central Question Repeated: He asks again, “What shall be done for the man who kills this Philistine?”, driving home the issue of God’s honor against the uncircumcised enemy.
  3. Same Answer Received: The people confirm the promised reward, reinforcing the stakes.
  4. Words Reaching the Throne: The report travels through the camp until it stands “before Saul.” No stage is too great for a faithful word.
  5. An Audience with the King: David is called in. His faith is about to be tested not by a giant first, but by a skeptical monarch.

Illustration hooks

  • A student repeats a question about a scholarship multiple times until a teacher finally takes notice and directs them to the dean. Persistence in asking the right question opens doors.
  • In a company, an intern comments on a safety hazard to several coworkers; eventually someone reports it to management. The repetition of a crucial observation can spark change.
  • Following a public tragedy, a community member keeps asking, “Why hasn’t someone done something?” Their persistent question eventually reaches leaders who act.

Questions your congregation is asking

  • Why does David not go directly to King Saul himself? Is it modesty, strategy, or divine guidance?
  • If these verses are missing in some ancient manuscripts, can we still trust the story of David and Goliath?
  • How do I know when to persist in a question and when to let it go?

Leading a Discussion

The repetition of David’s question may seem odd, but it reveals a pattern of faith-driven persistence. This passage also invites us to consider how our words reach beyond our immediate audience, and how God orchestrates even the reporting to bring about His purposes.

Discussion questions

  1. What does David’s turning “toward another” (v.30) tell you about his response to Eliab’s accusation?
  2. Why do you think David asks the same question again instead of going directly to Saul?
  3. The Hebrew verb for “they were heard” (שָׁמַע) can also mean “obey.” In what sense are David’s words being obeyed by those who report them?
  4. How does the fact that some manuscripts omit these verses affect your confidence in the story? What does this show about how the biblical text was preserved?
  5. David’s question is about “the reproach from Israel” and “the armies of the living God.” What concerns does he prioritize over personal gain?
  6. In what situations might you need to repeat a truth persistently before it is heard by the right person?
  7. Saul “sent for him.” How does this show God working behind the scenes in everyday events?

What the Commentators Say

5 public-domain commentaries, condensed into plain language.

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges Anglican 1880

The Cambridge Bible Schools' note focuses on a textual issue: this section about David's errand is absent from the Vatican manuscript of the Septuagint. The commentator flags the textual difficulties and points readers to a separate discussion on whether the passage is genuine.

Geneva Bible Notes Reformed 1599

The Geneva note highlights how David's repeated testimony and the people's consistent report eventually reached Saul. The chain of hearing and rehearsing David's words directly led to Saul summoning him.

Gill's Exposition of the Bible Baptist 1748

Gill observes that David deliberately repeated his challenge to multiple listeners because he wanted his words to reach Saul indirectly, not wanting to approach the king directly out of modesty. He also notes textual difficulties: several verses around this episode are missing in some manuscripts, leading some scholars to consider them later additions.

Matthew Henry's Commentary Reformed/Presbyterian 1710

Henry highlights the striking contrast: a young shepherd fresh from tending sheep shows more courage than all Israel's seasoned warriors. David's encouragement is phrased generally to avoid shaming Saul, yet it underscores how faith can outshine fear in the weakest human frame.

Wesley's Explanatory Notes Methodist/Wesleyan 1754

Wesley sees the delay not as hesitation but as a deliberate plan. The man was secretly moved by God's spirit to wait and speak with others first, ensuring news of the intended combat would reach the king's ear before he acted.

Word Study

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Cross-References

Source: Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (TSK, public domain)

I Samuel 17:26 David spoke to the men who stood by him, saying, “What shall be done to the man who kills this Philistine and takes away the reproach from Israel? For who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?”
I Samuel 17:27 The people answered him in this way, saying, “So shall it be done to the man who kills him.”
Proverbs 22:29 Do you see a man skilled in his work? He will serve kings. He won’t serve obscure men.

Interlinear and lexical data from STEPBible (CC BY 4.0). Cross-reference data from OpenBible.info (CC BY 4.0). Commentaries are public domain.

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