Psalms 85:8 · Bible study
Psalms 85:8 Commentary: God's Peace and Warning Against Folly
Hebrew · 11 what the commentators say
Meaning in one sentence
Psalm 85:8 combines God's promise of peace with a warning not to return to folly.
Research Summary
- Meaning: The psalmist waits for God's answer of peace but warns the people not to return to the foolish sin that led to judgment.
- Key words: 'hear' (attentive waiting), 'peace' (covenantal well-being), 'saints' (those loyal to God's covenant), 'folly' (moral stupidity and rebellion).
- Main debate: Whether the warning implies a genuine possibility of falling from grace or serves as a means of preserving the elect. Traditions vary on how conditional the promise is.
- Theological theme: Grace and accountability, God's forgiveness calls for faithful perseverance. Peace is both gift and call.
- Best use: A pastoral text for reminding believers that God's peace must be received with vigilance, not taken for granted.
Translation Comparison
BSB Berean Standard Bible 2020
I will listen to what God the LORD will say; for He will surely speak peace to His people and His saints; He will not let them return to folly.
WEB World English Bible 2000
I will hear what God, Yahweh, will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, his saints; but let them not turn again to folly.
KJV King James Version 1769
I will hear what God the Lord will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.
ASV American Standard Version 1901
I will hear what God Jehovah will speak; For he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: But let them not turn again to folly.
YLT Young's Literal Translation 1898
I hear what God Jehovah speaketh, For He speaketh peace unto His people, And unto His saints, and they turn not back to folly.
Darby Darby Bible 1890
I will hear what God, Jehovah, will speak; for he will speak peace unto his people, and to hisgodly ones: but let them not turn again to folly.
Douay-Rheims Douay-Rheims Bible 1899
There is none among the gods like unto thee, O Lord: and there is none according to thy works.
Translations in other languages (10 available)
Escucharé lo que hablará el Dios Jehová: porque hablará paz á su pueblo y á sus santos, para que no se conviertan á la locura.
Escutarei o que o Deus, o SENHOR, falar, pois ele falará de paz ao seu povo, e aos seus santos, contanto que não voltem à loucura.
Éternel! Fais-nous voir ta bonté,
Ach, daß ich hören sollte, was Gott der HERR redet; daß er Frieden zusagte seinem Volk und seinen Heiligen, auf daß sie nicht auf eine Torheit geraten!
Toon ons Uw goedertierenheid, o HEERE, en geef ons Uw heil.
Io ascolterò quel che dirà Iddio, l’Eterno, poiché egli parlerà di pace al suo popolo ed ai suoi fedeli; ma non ritornino più alla follia!
Panie! okaż nam miłosierdzie twoje, a daj nam zbawienie swoje.
Нет между богами, как Ты, Господи, и нет дел, как Твои.
我要聽 神─耶和華 所說 的話；因為 他必應許 將平安 賜給 他的百姓─ 他的聖民；他們卻不可 再轉 去妄行。
I will give ear to the voice of the Lord; for he will say words of peace to his people and to his saints; but let them not go back to their foolish ways.
Verse in Context
Scholars' Consensus
Commentators broadly agree that Psalm 85:8 depicts the psalmist's deliberate turn from petition to expectant listening. Having prayed for revival (vv.4-7), he now waits for God's reply, trusting it will be peace, the full, covenantal well-being known as shalom. But that peace comes with an edge: 'let them not turn again to folly.' As Barnes notes, the warning acknowledges the persistent danger of returning to old patterns that brought judgment. Gill specifies that 'folly' can mean idolatry, self-righteousness, or unbelief, each a foolish rejection of God's grace. The Cambridge Bible points to the Septuagint's variant reading, 'to those who turn the heart to him,' which softens the admonition. Yet the Hebrew text stands firm: grace is given, and it expects a response of faithfulness. The consensus across traditions is that this verse pairs promise with accountability, calling God's people to the wisdom of staying near Him.
How settled is the interpretation?
Interpretive difficulty: Medium
Main views:
- Conditional promise: Emphasizes the warning as a real condition: if the people return to folly, they forfeit the promised peace. Barnes and Gill stress human responsibility.
- Persevering grace: Sees the warning as God’s means to keep the faithful from falling. Calvin and Reformed tradition highlight God’s sovereign preservation, with the warning serving as a gracious protection.
What is clear: God promises peace to His people and warns them not to return to the folly that caused judgment.
What Scholars Agree and Debate
| Topic | Agreed | Debated |
|---|---|---|
| Nature of God’s peace | Peace (shalom) is comprehensive well-being flowing from right relationship with God. | Some focus on external prosperity; others emphasize internal reconciliation with God. |
| Meaning of 'folly' | Folly is sinful behavior rooted in self-reliance and rebellion against God. | Is it primarily idolatry, self-righteousness, or general moral failure? Gill lists several possible meanings; the term is broad. |
| Warning and assurance | The warning is serious and should prompt vigilance among believers. | Catholic and Orthodox traditions see a real possibility of turning from grace; Reformed and Evangelical traditions see the warning as a means God uses to preserve the elect from actual apostasy. |
| Identity of 'saints' | Saints are God’s people, defined by His calling and their loyalty to Him. | Kimchi (medieval Jewish commentator) understood them as righteous Gentiles; most Christian commentators see them as synonymous with God’s people. |
Historical & Cultural Context
Psalm 85 is widely assigned to the period after the Babylonian exile (c. 538 BC onward). The community had returned to the land but faced drought, opposition, and a sense that God's anger still burned (v.5). The prayer in vv.4-7 pleads for fresh revival. Verse 8 marks a pivot: the psalmist halts his pleading and declares he will listen. This stance mirrors Habakkuk 2:1, where the prophet stands on a watchtower to hear God's reply.
In Israel's tradition, listening to God was an act of covenant loyalty, the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4) called Israel to 'hear.' The peace God speaks is not a vague well-wish but the active shalom that includes material blessing, right relationships, and the presence of God (Psalm 29:11). The warning against 'folly' calls back to the story of Nabal (1 Samuel 25:25), whose name means 'fool.' In wisdom literature, folly is moral stupidity, a willful ignorance of God's ways (Proverbs 27:22). Israel had experienced the folly of idolatry and rebellion first hand. Now, after forgiveness and restoration, the urgent admonition is: do not go back. The 'saints' (hasidim) are those loyal to the covenant, recipients of God's hesed, lovingkindness. The verse sets up the promise of peace as requiring sustained faithfulness: not a condition for love, but the natural path for those who have been loved.
Textual Notes
The Masoretic Text is well attested for this verse. The chief variant appears in the Septuagint and Vulgate, which read 'to those who turn the heart to him' in place of 'let them not turn again to folly.' The Cambridge Bible notes that some editors prefer this reading, but the Hebrew text is retained in the standard critical editions. No other significant variants are recorded in the supplied sources.
Reception History
This verse has been valued in both Jewish and Christian traditions as a model of prayerful listening. Early church fathers often saw it as Christ speaking peace to the Church after judgment. The Reformers, especially Calvin, used it to encourage believers suffering under trial, emphasizing that God’s word of grace includes a summons to perseverance. In medieval art and poetry, the kissing of righteousness and peace (vv.10-11) drew more attention, but v.8 remained a touchstone for sermons on the link between grace and holiness. Modern devotional use often centers on its call to stop and listen after petition.
Preaching This Verse
Three-point outline
- Listen Expectantly. The psalmist stops speaking and starts listening. Prayer is not monologue. Real faith waits for God to speak through Scripture, providence, and the Spirit.
- Receive God's Peace. What God speaks is peace. Not always comfort on our terms, but the deep shalom of being right with Him. This peace is for His people, His saints, those in covenant relationship.
- Refuse the Folly of the Past. The promise comes with a warning: do not return to the foolish patterns that brought judgment. Grace is not permission to sin (Romans 6:1-2). True peace leads to greater holiness.
Five-point outline
- The posture of waiting (v.8a), after prayer, silence before God.
- The certainty of God's speech, He will speak; faith expects an answer.
- The content of God's word, peace, not indefinite anger.
- The recipients, His people, His saints; defined by covenant, not perfection.
- The condition, that they not turn again to folly; perseverance is required.
Illustration hooks
- A person recovers from a serious illness and immediately returns to the destructive habits that caused it. The warning is not a threat but a plea to treasure the gift.
- A community reconciles after a painful breakup, but old patterns of mistrust creep back. The peace they found is fragile unless guarded.
- A believer knows forgiveness but drifts into a persistent sin, forgetting its cost. The verse calls us to remember the folly of sin.
Questions your congregation is asking
- If God has forgiven me, why does He keep warning me about sin?
- Does this mean I can lose my salvation if I return to folly?
- How do I recognize when I am drifting back into folly?
Leading a Discussion
This verse stands at the turning point of Psalm 85. The community has prayed for restoration (vv.1-7). Now the psalmist chooses to listen. He expects a word of peace, but that word carries a warning. These questions will help your group explore what it means to hear God, receive His peace, and resist returning to folly.
Discussion questions
- What does the phrase 'I will hear' tell us about the psalmist's attitude after prayer? (Observation)
- Why does he expect God to 'speak peace'? What has happened earlier in the psalm that leads him to this confidence? (Interpretation)
- Based on the surrounding verses and Israel's history, what does 'folly' include? (Interpretation)
- How does a promise that comes with a warning affect the way we receive it? Is it still a promise? (Interpretation)
- In what areas of your life are you tempted to 'return to folly', old patterns that you know are not wise or holy? (Application)
- How can we cultivate a posture of listening to God in daily life? (Application)
- How does knowing that God speaks peace change the way you approach prayer and repentance? (Application)
Cross-References
Source: Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (TSK, public domain)
| Genesis 34:7 | The sons of Jacob came in from the field when they heard it. The men were grieved, and they were very angry, because he had done folly in Israel in lying with Jacob’s daughter, a thing that ought not to be done. |
| I Samuel 25:25 | Please don’t let my lord pay attention to this worthless fellow, Nabal, for as his name is, so is he. Nabal is his name, and folly is with him; but I, your servant, didn’t see my lord’s young men whom you sent. |
| Psalms 29:11 | Yahweh will give strength to his people. Yahweh will bless his people with peace. |
| Psalms 50:5 | “Gather my saints together to me, those who have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.” |
| Psalms 130:4 | But there is forgiveness with you, therefore you are feared. |
| Proverbs 25:11 | A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in settings of silver. |
| Proverbs 27:22 | Though you grind a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with grain, yet his foolishness will not be removed from him. |
| Isaiah 57:19 | I create the fruit of the lips: Peace, peace, to him who is far off and to him who is near,” says Yahweh; “and I will heal them.” |
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What the Commentators Say
10 public-domain commentaries, condensed into plain language.
Adam Clarke's Commentary Methodist/Wesleyan 1826
Clarke pictures the psalmist as a prophet who prays and then waits for a direct answer from the Spirit. The expected reply is a promise of peace for the people and especially for God's faithful followers, paired with a warning not to misuse that mercy by turning back to sin.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible Protestant 1832
Barnes highlights the psalmist's posture of patient, surrendered listening to God after affliction, trusting whatever God says will bring peace. He then warns against the common human tendency to forget solemn vows once deliverance comes, noting that sin is not just wickedness but foolishness that invites heavier judgment.
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges Anglican 1880
The commentator notes that the psalmist listens for God's answer, expecting a message of peace rather than continued wrath. This peace comes as a gift of God's lovingkindness, not human merit, but carries a warning: do not return to the folly of self-confidence that leads to disobedience.
Geneva Bible Notes Reformed 1599
The note stresses that God's promise of peace has a purpose: He speaks peace so His people will not turn back to their old foolish ways. Hearing His word carries a responsibility to leave folly behind. Peace is both gift and safeguard against returning to sin.
Gill's Exposition of the Bible Baptist 1748
Gill interprets this verse as the psalmist speaking on behalf of the Jewish people, who resolve to wait quietly for God's answer of peace. He stresses that God speaks peace only to His own covenant people and saints, not to the wicked, and warns them against returning to any form of folly, including self-righteousness.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary Protestant 1871
JFB sees the psalmist's confidence that God will show favor to His people when they repent. The commentator clarifies that "saints" here refers to the godly, the penitent ones who turn back to God.
Keil & Delitzsch OT Commentary Protestant 1876
Keil and Delitzsch emphasize that God's answer of peace includes a warning against returning to foolish behavior, which the present misfortune merited. They then unfold the promise as a charming allegory: mercy and truth meet, righteousness and peace embrace like guardian angels in the land.
Lange's Commentary Reformed 1857
Lange argues that the personified attributes—mercy, truth, righteousness, peace—are divine, not human virtues, acting as heavenly messengers in harmonious union.
Matthew Henry's Commentary Reformed/Presbyterian 1710
Matthew Henry highlights the psalmist's disciplined posture after prayer: stilling his own passions and waiting attentively to hear what God will say. The point is not simply that God answers, but that the one who prays must then become a silent, expectant listener, ready to receive God's word of peace.
Wesley's Explanatory Notes Methodist/Wesleyan 1754
Wesley stresses that hearing God requires careful, diligent attention. He notes that God's answer is peace, but this peace belongs only to those who are genuinely His saints, not to everyone who merely bears the name of God's people.