Job 35:1-8 · Bible study
Job 35:1-8 Commentary: Elihu's Case on God's Transcendence
Hebrew · 10 what the commentators say
Meaning in one sentence
Elihu charges Job with implying righteousness has no profit. He argues God is unaffected by sin or righteousness; only human relationships matter.
Research Summary
- Meaning: Elihu argues that God is so exalted that human sin and righteousness do not affect Him; they only affect other people.
- Key words: Righteousness (צדק, tzedek), profit (סכן, sakan), heavens (שמים, shamayim), wickedness (רשע, rasha).
- Main debate: Whether Elihu accurately represents Job's position. Some say he misquotes; others say he draws out Job's implication.
- Theological theme: Divine transcendence and independence. God cannot be manipulated, but human actions have real consequences in community.
- Best use: Correcting a transactional view of faith; teaching that obedience is for love of God and neighbour, not for personal profit.
Translation Comparison
BSB Berean Standard Bible 2020
1And Elihu went on to say:
2“Do you think this is just? You say, ‘I am more righteous than God.’
3For you ask, ‘What does it profit me, and what benefit do I gain apart from sin?’
4I will reply to you and to your friends as well.
5Look to the heavens and see; gaze at the clouds high above you.
6If you sin, what do you accomplish against Him? If you multiply your transgressions, what do you do to Him?
7If you are righteous, what do you give Him, or what does He receive from your hand?
8Your wickedness affects only a man like yourself, and your righteousness only a son of man.
WEB World English Bible 2000
1Moreover Elihu answered,
2“Do you think this to be your right, or do you say, ‘My righteousness is more than God’s,’
3that you ask, ‘What advantage will it be to you? What profit will I have, more than if I had sinned?’
4I will answer you, and your companions with you.
5Look to the skies, and see. See the skies, which are higher than you.
6If you have sinned, what effect do you have against him? If your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to him?
7If you are righteous, what do you give him? Or what does he receive from your hand?
8Your wickedness may hurt a man as you are, and your righteousness may profit a son of man.
KJV King James Version 1769
1Elihu spake moreover, and said,
2Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God’s?
3For thou saidst, What advantage will it be unto thee? and, What profit shall I have, if I be cleansed from my sin?
4I will answer thee, and thy companions with thee.
5Look unto the heavens, and see; and behold the clouds which are higher than thou.
6If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? or if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
7If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? or what receiveth he of thine hand?
8Thy wickedness may hurt a man as thou art; and thy righteousness may profit the son of man.
ASV American Standard Version 1901
1Moreover Elihu answered and said,
2Thinkest thou this to be thy right, Or sayest thou, My righteousness is more than God’s,
3That thou sayest, What advantage will it be unto thee? And, What profit shall I have, more than if I had sinned?
4I will answer thee, And thy companions with thee.
5Look unto the heavens, and see; And behold the skies, which are higher than thou.
6If thou hast sinned, what effectest thou against him? And if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
7If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? Or what receiveth he of thy hand?
8Thy wickednessmay hurta man as thou art; And thy righteousness may profit a son of man.
YLT Young's Literal Translation 1898
1And Elihu answereth and saith: --
2This hast thou reckoned for judgment: Thou hast said--`My righteousness is more than God's?'
3For thou sayest, `What doth it profit Thee! What do I profit from my sin?'
4I return thee words, and thy friends with thee,
5Behold attentively the heavens--and see, And behold the clouds, They have been higher than thou.
6If thou hast sinned, what dost thou against Him? And thy transgressions have been multiplied, What dost thou to Him?
7If thou hast been righteous, What dost thou give to Him? Or what from thy hand doth He receive?
8For a man like thyself is thy wickedness, And for a son of man thy righteousness.
Darby Darby Bible 1890
1Moreover Elihu answered and said,
2Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?
3For thou hast asked of what profit it is unto thee: what do I gain more than if I had sinned?
4I will reply to thee in words, and to thy companions with thee.
5Look unto the heavens and see; and survey the skies: they are higher than thou.
6If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? If thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
7If thou be righteous, what givest thou to him? or what doth he receive of thy hand?
8Thy wickedness [may affect] a man as thou [art], and thy righteousness a son of man.
Douay-Rheims Douay-Rheims Bible 1899
1Moreover Eliu spoke these words:
2Doth thy thought seem right to thee, that thou shouldst say: I am more just than God?
3For thou saidst: That which is right doth not please thee: or what will it profit thee if I sin?
4Therefore I will answer thy words, and thy friends with thee.
5Look up to heaven and see, and behold the sky, that it is higher than thee.
6If thou sin, what shalt thou hurt him? and if thy iniquities be multiplied, what shalt thou do against him?
7And if thou do justly, what shalt thou give him, or what shall he receive of thy hand?
8Thy wickedness may hurt a man that is like thee: and thy justice may help the son of man.
Verse in Context
Original Language (Biblical Hebrew)
Old Testament · Biblical Hebrew · Job 35:1
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Scholars' Consensus
Commentators across traditions agree that Elihu here presses a single argument: God is so exalted that human sin or righteousness cannot touch Him. Adam Clarke and Matthew Henry note that Job never said the words Elihu attributes to him. Instead, Job repeatedly maintained his innocence while questioning why God allowed his suffering (Job 27:2-6; 34:5). Barnes and the Cambridge Bible observe that Elihu is building on a sentiment Eliphaz raised in Job 22:2-3. The core of the passage, as Keil and Delitzsch state, is that our actions affect other people, not God Himself. Elihu's appeal to the heavens (v.5) is a visual argument for God's infinite distance from human affairs. The consensus holds that the passage teaches God's self-sufficiency and independence, a theme that runs throughout the wisdom tradition.
How settled is the interpretation?
Interpretive difficulty: Medium
Main views:
- Elihu as correct interpreter: Points to Job 27:2-6 and 34:5 where Job claims God has taken away his right, implying God treats him unjustly.
- Elihu as misrepresenter: Adam Clarke and Matthew Henry argue that Job never said what Elihu attributes; his actual words (Job 9:17; 16:17) maintain innocence without claiming superiority over God.
What is clear: God's transcendence means He is not benefited or harmed by human actions; our righteousness and wickedness primarily affect other people.
What Scholars Agree and Debate
| Topic | Agreed | Debated |
|---|---|---|
| Elihu's accuracy in quoting Job | Commentators agree that Job never literally said 'My righteousness is more than God's' (v.2). | Some, like Barnes and Jamieson-Fausset-Brown, argue Elihu is drawing a fair inference from Job's complaints. Others, like Adam Clarke and Matthew Henry, maintain that Elihu misrepresents Job and distorts his meaning. |
| Does God care about human actions? | All sides agree God is not made better or worse by human righteousness or sin in His essential being. | Who emphasizes God's relational response: Some traditions (Reformed) stress God's sovereign independence, while others (Arminian) note that God chooses to be affected by human actions within His covenant relationship. |
| Purpose of Elihu's speeches in the book | They serve as a corrective to both Job and his friends, preparing for God's own speeches. | Whether Elihu's theology is fully correct or still partial; some see him as a true mediator figure, others as a young man who overstates his case. |
Historical & Cultural Context
Elihu is the fourth speaker, younger than Job and his three friends. He enters in chapter 32, angry that neither Job nor his friends have proven their case. His speeches form a bridge to God's final appearance. In chapter 34 Elihu defended God's justice. Now, after a pause (v.1, “Moreover Elihu answered”), he resumes to address a specific claim. The pause suggests he waited for a reply, but none came (Gill).
In ancient Near Eastern wisdom, God's transcendence was a familiar idea. The sky was seen as a solid dome, the abode of God. Telling Job to “look to the skies” (v.5) was not mere poetry. It meant recognizing that God is fundamentally other, inaccessible to human manipulation. The Hebrew word for “clouds” (shachaq) can also mean “dust” or “thin cloud,” underscoring how far above human reach the heavens are (Clarke).
Elihu's argument challenges a common assumption in Job's culture: that righteousness automatically brings reward and sin brings punishment. Job's complaint that righteousness gained him nothing (v.3) echoed sentiments expressed by the wicked in earlier chapters (Job 21:14-15). Elihu seizes on this to argue that Job has slipped into a utilitarian view of religion. The passage reminds the reader that God is not a transactional deity who can be increased or diminished by human behavior.
Textual Notes
The supplied sources note no significant textual variants for Job 35:1-8. The Hebrew text is stable across manuscripts. The main differences in English translations involve how to render vv.2-3: some understand ‘my righteousness is more than God’s’ as a direct quotation, while others, like the BSB, render Job’s words as ‘I am more righteous than God.’ The underlying Hebrew allows both readings. The KJV and Douay follow a similar pattern to the WEB.
Reception History
In the history of interpretation, Job 35:1-8 has been used to support the doctrine of divine impassibility, that God does not suffer change or need from His creatures. Early Christian writers such as Gregory the Great applied this passage to teach that human virtue does not add to God's glory, but is for the benefit of the virtuous person and their community. Reformation figures like John Calvin and the Geneva Bible commentators saw here a defense of God's absolute independence from human works. Matthew Henry and John Wesley both warned against the danger of judging God's goodness by personal advantage. In modern pastoral theology, the passage is often used to confront a transactional view of prayer and obedience, redirecting believers to serve God freely without expecting earthly reward.
Preaching This Verse
Three-point outline
- The charge Elihu levels. Elihu claims Job said, “My righteousness is more than God's” and questioned the profit of being righteous (vv.2-3). Commentators caution that this is an inference, not a direct quote. Job insisted on his innocence but never claimed superiority over God.
- The cosmic perspective. Elihu points to the heavens and clouds, higher than any human (v.5). The point is not merely that God is far away; it is that God is so utterly independent that neither sin nor righteousness changes His reality (vv.6-7).
- The horizontal effect. The only difference your actions make is to other people like yourself (v.8). Wickedness harms your neighbour; righteousness benefits those around you. The passage reframes moral behaviour: it matters for community, not for manipulating God.
Five-point outline
- Elihu resumes his speech after a silence (v.1).
- He accuses Job of claiming that righteousness is of no personal benefit (vv.2-3).
- He points to the height of the heavens as a symbol of God's infinite distance and transcendence (v.5).
- He asks a series of rhetorical questions: sin does nothing against God; righteousness gives Him nothing (vv.6-7).
- He concludes that both wickedness and righteousness affect only other humans, not God (v.8).
Illustration hooks
- A child throwing a tantrum cannot affect the course of the sun, but can upset the peace of the whole household. Our actions have real, limited effects within our sphere.
- A citizen writes a letter to the president. Whether the letter is praise or complaint, it does not change the president's salary or health. But it may influence policy or the people around the president. So our sin and righteousness affect human society more than God's essential being.
Questions your congregation is asking
- If God is not affected by my sin, why does it matter? Doesn't my sin hurt God?
- Does God need my righteousness? If not, why does He command it?
- Does this passage mean that God is distant and uncaring? How does it fit with the rest of Job?
Leading a Discussion
Elihu interrupts a long pause in the debate to address Job directly. He claims Job has said that being righteous brings no profit and that Job is more righteous than God. This passage challenges us to examine why we obey God: for personal benefit or because of who He is? As you discuss, notice that Elihu's argument about God's transcendence does not deny that God cares; it redirects our focus from trying to influence God to living rightly for the sake of others.
Discussion questions
- Read verses 2-3. What does Elihu accuse Job of saying? Do you think his accusation is fair? Use Job 27:2-6 and 34:5 to compare.
- Why does Elihu tell Job to “look to the skies” (v.5)? What point is he making about God and about human limitations?
- In verses 6-7, Elihu asks if sin can affect God or if righteousness can give Him something. How would you answer these questions from the rest of Scripture? (Consider Psalm 51:4 and Romans 11:35-36.)
- Verse 8 says your behavior affects “a man as you are” and “a son of man.” What does this teach about the social dimension of sin and righteousness?
- Does this passage encourage a distant view of God, or does it free us to serve God without expecting a direct transaction? Explain.
- When have you felt that living righteously was “not worth it”? How does this passage speak to that feeling?
- How can we maintain a close relationship with God while also recognizing His complete independence from our actions?
Word Study
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Cross-References
Source: Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (TSK, public domain)
| Job 9:17 | For he breaks me with a storm, and multiplies my wounds without cause. |
| Job 10:7 | Although you know that I am not wicked, there is no one who can deliver out of your hand. |
| Job 16:17 | although there is no violence in my hands, and my prayer is pure. |
| Job 19:6 | know now that God has subverted me, and has surrounded me with his net. |
| Job 19:7 | “Behold, I cry out of wrong, but I am not heard. I cry for help, but there is no justice. |
| Job 27:2 | “As God lives, who has taken away my right, the Almighty, who has made my soul bitter |
| Job 27:6 | I hold fast to my righteousness, and will not let it go. My heart will not reproach me so long as I live. |
| Job 34:5 | For Job has said, ‘I am righteous, God has taken away my right. |
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What the Commentators Say
10 public-domain commentaries, condensed into plain language.
Adam Clarke's Commentary Methodist/Wesleyan 1826
Clarke notes Job did not claim his righteousness was greater than God’s. He said he knew he was righteous in God’s eyes because God had given him that status. Your goodness and badness affect only people, not God. You may harm yourself or others with evil actions, yet you can also benefit from good actions, but God is not affected by either.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible Protestant 1832
Barnes highlights Elihu's key argument: God is so exalted above the heavens that human sin cannot harm Him nor righteousness benefit Him. Therefore God is not swayed by partial motives like people are, but deals with absolute impartiality. This means serving God does bring real advantage, not because He owes us, but because justice itself rewards righteousness.
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges Anglican 1880
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges notes that Job believes righteousness offers no benefit to a person since God is so far above that human actions cannot affect Him. He thinks holding to godliness means nothing when God shows no interest in it or treats the righteous like the wicked.
Geneva Bible Notes Reformed 1599
Geneva Bible Notes notes that humans who claim to be more righteous than God actually offer no real benefit to Him. Their sins harm others but give God nothing in return.
Gill's Exposition of the Bible Baptist 1748
Gill clarifies that when Job said "my righteousness is more than God's," he meant the righteousness of his cause, not his personal character. He also stresses that sin cannot harm God's essential glory, and righteousness cannot profit him; both only affect other people.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary Protestant 1871
The commentator notes that Job says his righteousness brings no advantage over sin because the wicked who speak the same words do not suffer. He also shows that God is far above humans and cannot be harmed by their actions.
Keil & Delitzsch OT Commentary Protestant 1876
Keil and Delitzsch highlight Elihu's central point: human righteousness or sin can neither harm nor benefit God, who remains untouched and unchanging. The real effect of either choice falls entirely on the doer and on other humans. This argument, they note, is meant to silence Job into quiet submission.
Lange's Commentary Reformed 1857
Lange notes that Elihu here confronts a dangerous error in Job's thinking: the suggestion that piety is pointless because God does not reward or punish fairly. Elihu argues this view is irrational and incompatible with God's greatness. True deliverance is delayed, he insists, when those who suffer lack genuine godly fear.
Matthew Henry's Commentary Reformed/Presbyterian 1710
Henry notes Elihu believes Job wrongly claims his own righteousness exceeds God’s. He thinks Job will eventually admit his words were wrong when he considers them carefully.
Wesley's Explanatory Notes Methodist/Wesleyan 1754
Wesley notes Job blames God for his punishment even though he never said those exact words. He also points out that Job’s claim about clouds being far above him shows God is even further beyond our reach.